http://richarddawkins.net/videos/645470 ... ch-26-2012

Turns out the atheist minister is "anonymous"...if she really exists.

If she does, she is a hypocritical liar because she is still supposedly serving as a minister.

So, she may not exist at all...they have already accepted lying in principle as a means of furthering their goals.

1. DW already started a thread on this (http://www.kcfs.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2136). Today. And you responded. But then again, why would we expect you to actually read a post before responding?

2. The link you supply does provide the minister's name and it isn't "anonymous." And the video in that link notes that she has stepped down from her duties. But then again, why would we expect you to actually read a link before posting it?

The ministers name is not given; only some fake name. First she was "Lynn", then she was "Theresa". Then she was serving, then she wasn't, but maybe she is.
Its all BS.

Hence, she is anonymous.

And she is a liar too, because she was serving as a minister while she was an atheist. In fact, it sounds like fraud to me; you can't believe squat about this article!

But what would a Moral Relativist like you care?

MikeH
I'm not sure if it's fake or not. This type of thing should be happening and increasing. There are atheist and agnostics in the pulpit. Some for money some for the devil himself. Remember in the latter days there is to be a great falling away of the church as we approach and during the tribulation period.

But this clip is enlightening for those who can see it. . The misinformation and fallacy of the clergy letter project posed by atheist Michael Zimmerman can easily be seen as demonic.

Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to deceitful spirits, and doctrines of demons; 1 Timothy 4:1

Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world 1 John 4

ABO,

You refer to misinformation of the Clergy project. Do you know the goals and objectives of the Clergy Project? How can there be misinformation if its goals are clearly stated? Seems to me you are looking for "information" about the Clergy project in the scriptures. They are not there.

You don't lose faith, you find reason.

Conservative religious polling site Barna estimates 10-15% of self professed Christians are atheists/agnostics and only go to church because of family pressures. Let's cut the percentages of pastors in half 5-7% are atheists/agnostics/non religous. This would be a huge number and constitute thousands of pastors who are non believers.

Currently the Clergy project has 130-150 actively involved ministers. They are constantly working with others, keeping them posted and sort them out. So double this to 300 or so potential members. If you consider there are 2 major metro areas in each state of the US this would make it 100 or so and at least 3 ministers per each metro area who are no believers. Consider other smaller towns and if you add suburbia, double this. So 6-10 ministers in every major metropolitan area are at any time are slowly coming out.

If you have 100-200 churches in each area this would be 5-10% of ministers - the same numbers I came up above by halfing the Barna's numbers.

ABO,

It's quite easy to see that the story is real. There is a video from the local TV station in Telahasse FL about it. To doubt objective reality is bizarre - it tells you what's real especially when facts are at hand. Weird. Bizarre. Strange.

The reason why information from this "Project" is not reliable is that it largely consists of information provided by people who are serving, or served, as ministers when in fact they no long believed.

Hence, they are admitted liars.

And the information is not reliable.

That we are supposed to assume that it is Weird. Bizarre. Strange.